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Offline tschmidlin

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pickup tube
« on: November 17, 2011, 11:54:32 am »
I've got a couple of kettles with ball valves in them, but they are set high enough that I often tilt them to get more out and a pickup tube would keep me from having to do that.  The outlets are smooth on the inside, so a screw in pickup tube won't work.

I could probably just shove a length of soft copper in there and bend it to suit.  Any other ideas out there?
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Re: pickup tube
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2011, 12:00:13 pm »
You don't have a NPT port on the inside?  If you don't get a tight fit with whatever you add, you might lose siphon once the liquid level falls below the ball valve.

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Re: pickup tube
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2011, 12:20:28 pm »
No, it is welded in.  Good point about losing siphon, but some kind of cork could probably be rigged with some silicone sealant.  A little vaseline should prevent it from sticking to the kettle while it dries in shape.  Hmmmm . . . .
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Re: pickup tube
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2011, 12:30:27 pm »
You could wrap teflon tape around the copper tube until you get a snug enough fit.
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Re: pickup tube
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2011, 12:35:11 pm »
I'm trying to envision the fitting...a pic or two would help Tom.
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Re: pickup tube
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2011, 12:48:13 pm »
I had this same problem. I assume that you have female, half couplings welded to your kettle.

I ended up making my own fitting by brazing a copper tube inside a male nipple that screwed in from the outside. My ball valve then screwed onto this male fitting. Strange looking, but it works.

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Re: pickup tube
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2011, 12:55:25 pm »
I had this same problem. I assume that you have female, half couplings welded to your kettle.

I ended up making my own fitting by brazing a copper tube inside a male nipple that screwed in from the outside. My ball valve then screwed onto this male fitting. Strange looking, but it works.
Pics of this would help :)

I'll take some pics of mine and post them later, I'm not with my kettle right now. ;)

Teflon tape could work, but I'd have to replace it don't you think?  I plan to remove the pickup tube for cleaning the kettle.
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Re: pickup tube
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2011, 01:04:01 pm »
Short silicone hose inserted, rather than copper?

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Re: pickup tube
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2011, 01:09:39 pm »

, I'm not with my kettle right now. ;)

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shame when a boy and his kettle are apart ::)

is it possible to get a tap and tap threads in to the inside of the valve fitting from inside the kettle?  this would enable you to put a threaded connection into the valve from the inside wrapped in teflon.  then you could put your copper pick up etc on to just about any fitting you would want.
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Re: pickup tube
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2011, 01:18:59 pm »
I had this same problem. I assume that you have female, half couplings welded to your kettle.

I ended up making my own fitting by brazing a copper tube inside a male nipple that screwed in from the outside. My ball valve then screwed onto this male fitting. Strange looking, but it works.

I think I can see how that would work.  Don't you lose a lot of space in the connector?  Seems like this would drop 1/2" port down to 3/8" or 1/4" pretty quickly.

The idea about running a tap all the way through the coupling seems like a good one.  Assuming there is enough sidewall to support threads both internal and external.

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Re: pickup tube
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2011, 01:28:19 pm »
Tom replacing the tape would be easy- probably just a couple turns and the bonus is that it is reversible. You are not altering the equipment at all.
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Re: pickup tube
« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2011, 02:25:47 pm »
I had this same problem. I assume that you have female, half couplings welded to your kettle.

I ended up making my own fitting by brazing a copper tube inside a male nipple that screwed in from the outside. My ball valve then screwed onto this male fitting. Strange looking, but it works.

I think I can see how that would work.  Don't you lose a lot of space in the connector?  Seems like this would drop 1/2" port down to 3/8" or 1/4" pretty quickly.

The idea about running a tap all the way through the coupling seems like a good one.  Assuming there is enough sidewall to support threads both internal and external.

Paul

I have a 1" female half coupler welded to my kettle, and since my ball valve is 1/2" ( don't ask) I have a lot of room to spare. A picture of it installed would not tell you anything and sorry, but  I'm not disassembling it.

If I ever build another kettle, it will have full couplers in stalled rather than half ones, for this very reason. I'm really surprised that of all the reading I did before I built mine, no one ever addressed this problem. Not to mention that half couplers are much harder to find.

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Re: pickup tube
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2011, 03:07:02 pm »
I had a similar fitting on one of my kettles and I tapped it out, added a close nipple, and was able to screw on a pickup tube using a compression fitting.
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Re: pickup tube
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2011, 10:27:49 pm »
Here's the pic.  It's a 3/8" valve welded in place.





Tapping it out would clearly be the "best" solution, but I'm not sure it's necessary for what I want.  I'll probably waste some money trying some other ideas first. :)
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Re: pickup tube
« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2011, 05:36:33 am »
I don't know why you want one. It's very low and on one side. I've never seen it done like that, but I like it.

If that's 3/8 pipe, then what I did won't work. There's not enough internal diameter to work with.
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