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Are you sure you're not comparing Lovibond vs EBC  or something like that? Briess Munich is a little high at 10L, but Great Western is 7.9L. Briess Vienna is 3.5 L and Weyermann lists a range of 2.7-3.8 Lovibond for their Munich. Swaen is 4-5L for theirs. There are differences from maltster to maltster for sure, but I've never noticed a drastic trend across the board for domestic vs European maltsters.

I don't mean every malt they make,  but compare say Weyermann Munich and Vienna to Briess. Light Munich, dark Munich, both maltsters have a malt described as light or dark. But the domestic light is comparable to the import dark. 

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that SRM is quite a bit higher than simpsons Golden promise. Surprised at that if they are trying to make this a domestic replacement for it

That's actually pretty common across the board. Take a look at any domestic Munich and it will be dramatically higher SRM for the same roast description. European will be seven, domestic is 12 to 15. European is 12 for the dark, domestic is 25 let's say. The same thing for Vienna, and I don't know the reasoning for that.

Are you sure you're not comparing Lovibond vs EBC  or something like that? Briess Munich is a little high at 10L, but Great Western is 7.9L. Briess Vienna is 3.5 L and Weyermann lists a range of 2.7-3.8 Lovibond for their Munich. Swaen is 4-5L for theirs. There are differences from maltster to maltster for sure, but I've never noticed a drastic trend across the board for domestic vs European maltsters.

Those Weyermann numbers didn't look right to me, so I looked, and those aren't right.

https://www.weyermann.de/en-us/product/weyermann-munich-malt-type-1-2/

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Bonlander Munich (light) is 10L vs Weyermann Munich 1 at 5-6.9.  Munich 2 (dark) is 8-10 vs Aromatic malt (Briess dark) @ 20L.  I do believe it was Dr Axel Goehler who noted the Eu maltsters kiln those malts lighter than US ones, and gave reasons for it, though I can't recall the reasons. Might have been tradition. It just happens that those are the two brands I use most, and more than once my "inventory" hasn't crossed over well when I needed to make a substitution. 

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Bonlander Munich (light) is 10L vs Weyermann Munich 1 at 5-6.9.  Munich 2 (dark) is 8-10 vs Aromatic malt (Briess dark) @ 20L.  I do believe it was Dr Axel Goehler who noted the Eu maltsters kiln those malts lighter than US ones, and gave reasons for it, though I can't recall the reasons. Might have been tradition. It just happens that those are the two brands I use most, and more than once my "inventory" hasn't crossed over well when I needed to make a substitution.

Aromatic malt isn't the same as dark Munich. It's comparable to Melanoiden malt. Bonlander seems to split the difference between a Light and a Dark Munich.

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that SRM is quite a bit higher than simpsons Golden promise. Surprised at that if they are trying to make this a domestic replacement for it

That's actually pretty common across the board. Take a look at any domestic Munich and it will be dramatically higher SRM for the same roast description. European will be seven, domestic is 12 to 15. European is 12 for the dark, domestic is 25 let's say. The same thing for Vienna, and I don't know the reasoning for that.

Are you sure you're not comparing Lovibond vs EBC  or something like that? Briess Munich is a little high at 10L, but Great Western is 7.9L. Briess Vienna is 3.5 L and Weyermann lists a range of 2.7-3.8 Lovibond for their Munich. Swaen is 4-5L for theirs. There are differences from maltster to maltster for sure, but I've never noticed a drastic trend across the board for domestic vs European maltsters.

Those Weyermann numbers didn't look right to me, so I looked, and those aren't right.

https://www.weyermann.de/en-us/product/weyermann-munich-malt-type-1-2/

Yeah, that was mistyped. That should have said Weyermann Vienna, not Munich

[hopfenundmalz]

that SRM is quite a bit higher than simpsons Golden promise. Surprised at that if they are trying to make this a domestic replacement for it

That's actually pretty common across the board. Take a look at any domestic Munich and it will be dramatically higher SRM for the same roast description. European will be seven, domestic is 12 to 15. European is 12 for the dark, domestic is 25 let's say. The same thing for Vienna, and I don't know the reasoning for that.

Are you sure you're not comparing Lovibond vs EBC  or something like that? Briess Munich is a little high at 10L, but Great Western is 7.9L. Briess Vienna is 3.5 L and Weyermann lists a range of 2.7-3.8 Lovibond for their Munich. Swaen is 4-5L for theirs. There are differences from maltster to maltster for sure, but I've never noticed a drastic trend across the board for domestic vs European maltsters.

Those Weyermann numbers didn't look right to me, so I looked, and those aren't right.

https://www.weyermann.de/en-us/product/weyermann-munich-malt-type-1-2/

Yeah, that was mistyped. That should have said Weyermann Vienna, not Munich

Ah, that explains it.