i just got a massive dose of melanoidin in an andechs doppelbock last night. my mental note to replicate that, is going to be:
1. use munich malt 15 to 50% depending on what im aiming for
2. consider using menaloidin malt again for the first time in forever, probably 2 to 3%
3. drain off additional 15% of volume by adding more water to mash, then boiling that hard in a separate pot while the main boil is on and adding that in.
4. 60 min+ boil when im generally doing 40 to 45 mins these days.
i think thats about it.