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Offline Bel Air Brewing

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LME for a Barleywine
« on: March 28, 2023, 02:13:15 pm »
Planning to brew another English Barleywine. My last one hit 10.5% ABV, and did well in competition.
Looking to up the ABV a bit, and get a more bourbon-like finish. My mash tun is pretty much maxed out at 32 lbs, for 5 gallon size brew.
What type of LME would you suggest?

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Re: LME for a Barleywine
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2023, 02:48:00 pm »
I feel DME is a better product than LME. I would use light DME as it contrbutes less of it's own flavor.
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Re: LME for a Barleywine
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2023, 03:39:40 pm »
The freshest you can find. Doesn't matter what kind really since you're not looking to get a large percentage of your gravity from it.

But to agree with Pete, DME is a better choice if you're not sure about the age of your LME.
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Re: LME for a Barleywine
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2023, 03:47:25 pm »
I would use light DME, or maybe amber DME.
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Re: LME for a Barleywine
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2023, 04:17:47 pm »
How is 32 lbs of grain not enough for a 5 gallon batch?


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Re: LME for a Barleywine
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2023, 04:28:24 pm »
How is 32 lbs of grain not enough for a 5 gallon batch?


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Lower efficiency happens when going big; it all depends on how big one wants to go and not boil wort down for a long time to hit the target.

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Re: LME for a Barleywine
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2023, 04:33:15 pm »
How is 32 lbs of grain not enough for a 5 gallon batch?


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Lower efficiency happens when going big; it all depends on how big one wants to go and not boil wort down for a long time to hit the target.
I understand that and I make a Barleywine every year. My biggest was 12.2% ABV and I used 25 lbs for a 5 gallon batch.


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Re: LME for a Barleywine
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2023, 06:20:03 pm »
DME it is, thanks for the input.
My boil is a full two hours. Hope to hit 12% or greater ABV.

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Re: LME for a Barleywine
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2023, 02:33:20 am »
I'd go with light or pilsner DME if you're using extract, since those tend to be the most fermentable. A barleywine is already going to tend to have a high FG, so you don't want to compound the issue with a less fermentable extract.
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Re: LME for a Barleywine
« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2023, 08:00:51 am »
I'd go with light or pilsner DME if you're using extract, since those tend to be the most fermentable. A barleywine is already going to tend to have a high FG, so you don't want to compound the issue with a less fermentable extract.

Thanks! The president of our brew club suggested using a liquid extract, as it is easier to manage.

Here is my original grain bill:

20 lbs Ireks Pale
3 lbs Vienna
3 lbs Munich
1 lb 40*
1 lb Briess 20*
1 lb Ireks 60*
1/2 lb Special B

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Re: LME for a Barleywine
« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2023, 08:53:38 am »
I'd suggest subbing a bit of sugar for an equal amount of DME to account for its lower fermentability. I don't find DME any more difficult to use than LME. IMO, it's easier.
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Re: LME for a Barleywine
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2023, 09:06:04 am »
I'd suggest subbing a bit of sugar for an equal amount of DME to account for its lower fermentability. I don't find DME any more difficult to use than LME. IMO, it's easier.

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I also find DME a bit easier to use than LME.
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Re: LME for a Barleywine
« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2023, 09:58:20 am »
It appears that we have gone full circle on this. My grain room has the required grains on hand for this brew. The Brewer's Friend calculator predicts about 14% ABV. So no need for extract.

When my first Barleywine was fresh (2 years old now) it had a bourbon like character, with a very slight warming effect. It has mellowed out significantly now.

I liked the fresh version better, although it is still a very nice drinking beer.

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Re: LME for a Barleywine
« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2023, 11:33:15 am »
I'm curious on what yeast you are using for a 14% barleywine.

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Re: LME for a Barleywine
« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2023, 01:32:58 pm »
I'm curious on what yeast you are using for a 14% barleywine.

My go to ale yeast, S0-4. It will easily hit 11%. Might augment this with some champagne or wine yeast to get us over the top.
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