thanks everyone
from my local online HBS i dont have access to target or progress. i havent tried too many british hops beyond fuggles and EKG, though i have used EKG a LOT. i was always under the (likely wrong) impression that most british hops were created for value/agricultural reasons rather with taste as a secondary consideration so never tried them much.
i do have challenger hops. im thinking of mixing EKG with mosaic and another thing.
i have read a lot of barclay perkins, but its not the most navigable site, and while he does have a lot of recipes, i find a lot are very similar and very historically accurate from industrial brewers ie. 99.95% pale malt 0.05% caramel colour, etc. ive taken into consideration his thoughts on original style imperial stouts as being fair bit brown malt, small amount black malt and thats it for grist.
i might try to seek out bramling hops from other sites but i try to keep it to canadian homebrew sites so i dont have to pay excessive postage fees or border fees, but who knows.
marstons 61 deep is a nu-english golden ale i enjoy. i wish i had access to more marstons stuff like they used to bring in.
that zythophile blog looks great for beer fun facts and stuff.
looking at an old peculier recipe just now and based on what i've seen looking at a lot of recipes, i think the issue is a lot like how homebrewers were trying to formulate belgian brews with kitchen sink malt recipes and fancy sugars.
a lot of british brews are made with a very small amount of malt types ie. a good, solid base malt, a crystal malt between 50 to 80Lov., and various roasted malts we are all familiar with ie. chocolate/roasted barley/black malt and sugar/syrup. meaning the key difference between beers is in the actual yeast, mash methods, and with british brews compared to belgian especially, hopping.
so, im aiming to get the west yorkshire yeast this year at some point and try it out.