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Offline HopDen

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Strange Brew Idea?
« on: April 12, 2021, 05:08:37 pm »
I don't know where this idea is headed but it might be the delete button.

35% Red X
35% 2 Row
30% Flaked Rice
Magnum @ 75 & 60
Celeia @ 15/10/5/0
Denny's 1450 fermented wherever it plateaus
OG 1.051
IBU's 34
SRM 8.5
60 min @ 148
75 min boil

Water: 53 Ca
           32 Sodium
           47 CaSo4
           75 Cl
           0 Alk

Thoughts/Criticisms welcome!




           





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Re: Strange Brew Idea?
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2021, 07:19:54 pm »
I have the ingredients for a 100 percent red x and cascade cryohop SMASH using Denny's favorite.

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Re: Strange Brew Idea?
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2021, 07:22:09 pm »
I think it will work, although I have a hard time picturing a rice-heavy brew as an ale instead of a lager. I think I'd want a crisp lager finish in a beer like this. That said, I don't have much experience with 1450 so I can't really picture how that would work here.

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Re: Strange Brew Idea?
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2021, 07:33:28 pm »
I think it will work, although I have a hard time picturing a rice-heavy brew as an ale instead of a lager. I think I'd want a crisp lager finish in a beer like this. That said, I don't have much experience with 1450 so I can't really picture how that would work here.

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I was thinking that also when putting this idea to paper. If I use a lager yeast I have OYL106 fermenting now and I should probably just cone to cone the yeast.

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Re: Strange Brew Idea?
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2021, 05:30:09 am »
I think it will work, although I have a hard time picturing a rice-heavy brew as an ale instead of a lager. I think I'd want a crisp lager finish in a beer like this. That said, I don't have much experience with 1450 so I can't really picture how that would work here.

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Rice works really well in ales, but I think it's a little dependent on the yeast. I make a summer beer using a grain bill from my American lager. I add enough Citra, Mosaic or Idaho 7 in the whirlpool to get to 12-15 IBU and ferment with Voss yeast at 95F. No hops in the boil. The Voss yeast adds a crispness to the beer which works really well with the fruity hops. The rice keeps it light and crushable. Rice can be a really nice addition as longs as it fits the beer.

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Re: Strange Brew Idea?
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2021, 08:53:29 am »
Do you have a goal in mind?  I start with that and work backwards.  Also, when you say "wherever it plateaus" I hope you aren't referring to temp.
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Re: Strange Brew Idea?
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2021, 10:48:10 am »
Do you have a goal in mind?  I start with that and work backwards.  Also, when you say "wherever it plateaus" I hope you aren't referring to temp.

Yes I am. My basement is 53* so my thought is it will not go higher than the mid 70’s. If it does I will have my glycol attached and set to kick on. What are your experiences with higher temps on 1450?

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Re: Strange Brew Idea?
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2021, 11:12:40 am »
Do you have a goal in mind?  I start with that and work backwards.  Also, when you say "wherever it plateaus" I hope you aren't referring to temp.

Yes I am. My basement is 53* so my thought is it will not go higher than the mid 70’s. If it does I will have my glycol attached and set to kick on. What are your experiences with higher temps on 1450?

I didn't care for the ester profile the few times it went higher, so I don't have a lot of experience with it.  After that, I just kept it cool.
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Re: Strange Brew Idea?
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2021, 11:26:02 am »
Do you have a goal in mind?  I start with that and work backwards.  Also, when you say "wherever it plateaus" I hope you aren't referring to temp.

Yes I am. My basement is 53* so my thought is it will not go higher than the mid 70’s. If it does I will have my glycol attached and set to kick on. What are your experiences with higher temps on 1450?

I didn't care for the ester profile the few times it went higher, so I don't have a lot of experience with it.  After that, I just kept it cool.

Thanks for the feedback Denny.

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Re: Strange Brew Idea?
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2021, 02:01:24 pm »
I think it will work, although I have a hard time picturing a rice-heavy brew as an ale instead of a lager. I think I'd want a crisp lager finish in a beer like this. That said, I don't have much experience with 1450 so I can't really picture how that would work here.

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Bayou Teche Brewing does a "Kölsch-Style Ale" with Pilsner and Rice.  It's pretty good, to my palate anyway.  AFIAK, I've never met Red-X in person; so I don't know how it'd interact with rice.
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Re: Strange Brew Idea?
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2021, 02:32:42 pm »
I think it will work, although I have a hard time picturing a rice-heavy brew as an ale instead of a lager. I think I'd want a crisp lager finish in a beer like this. That said, I don't have much experience with 1450 so I can't really picture how that would work here.

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Rice works really well in ales, but I think it's a little dependent on the yeast. I make a summer beer using a grain bill from my American lager. I add enough Citra, Mosaic or Idaho 7 in the whirlpool to get to 12-15 IBU and ferment with Voss yeast at 95F. No hops in the boil. The Voss yeast adds a crispness to the beer which works really well with the fruity hops. The rice keeps it light and crushable. Rice can be a really nice addition as longs as it fits the beer.
A few years ago in the course of writing an article about using forms of rice that don't need a cereal mash I brewed a Muntons nut brown ale kit that I substituted brown rice syrup in place of the sugar called for. It turned out pretty good.
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