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Offline russell

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RO system
« on: March 30, 2021, 11:10:00 am »
     I am interested in getting an RO system. I only brew about once a month with about 10 gallons of water. My city water is good for brewing browns for example but for lighter beers I have been using RO to break down my city water using Palmers water profiles. For those with RO systems.
      I would like to hear if I should just deep getting the water from Glacier sites or get an RO system. Also how much water is used to produce the RO water and maybe suggestions on one that wont cost too much and works good for you.
     Is it worth my time and money to get one or not?

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Re: RO system
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2021, 11:16:31 am »
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Re: RO system
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2021, 11:17:05 am »
Unless you have no other reasonable choice, an RO system can be more hassle than it's worth.
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Re: RO system
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2021, 01:27:32 pm »
I'm no expert but I did a fair amount of research a few years back on RO water.

An RO system can be pricy, probably hard to justify for 10-20 gallons a month.
Water usage depends on the configuration but generally you can assume 4:1 gal-in:gal-out, if I am remembering correctly.  RO creates a ton wasted water that gets expensive if you are paying for water.

If you have a source of RO close by with a reasonable cost/gallon, I wouldn't put one it.  I'd never be able to make the costs work out from what I've seen.

Others on the board have RO systems and can likely correct any misstatements I may have made.  8^)

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Re: RO system
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2021, 02:19:31 pm »
I'm not sure what your definition of pricey is but this is similar to what I use.

https://www.amazon.com/SimPure-Reverse-Osmosis-System-Filtration/dp/B07QQ4JW2K/ref=sr_1_31?crid=1DIH9VGIJ03U&dchild=1&keywords=ro+system+under+sink&qid=1617135151&sprefix=RO+system%2Caps%2C189&sr=8-31

If you want to have almost complete control of your water profiles then I would buy a RO system. I don't regret my purchase.


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Re: RO system
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2021, 03:45:43 pm »
It seems that folks who have access to very soft natural water at home don’t fully appreciate how good they have it and how bad others’ waters might be.  I was buying $4.50/5 gallon RO water at the store for several years before installing RO at my house.  It paid for itself within a couple years.  I have a well so my source water costs me nothing but electricity to pump it - the RO system was under $200.  No brainer and never regretted it.
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Re: RO system
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2021, 03:53:36 pm »
This thread made me check the availability of RO water near me and apparently I can get it right up the street 10 gallons for like 4 bucks. That is sweet. Think I'm gonna start messing with water now!

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Re: RO system
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2021, 05:18:08 pm »
This thread made me check the availability of RO water near me and apparently I can get it right up the street 10 gallons for like 4 bucks. That is sweet. Think I'm gonna start messing with water now!

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If you have the ability to check the RO water with an ion kit, I would do so. At the very least I would also check TDS so that when or if you use a online calculator for salt additions you can add the results to the program and that will give you better results. I use BeerSmith3. You can also use Brun'Water. Both are excellent

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Re: RO system
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2021, 05:19:08 pm »
Thank you! I'm messing around with Beer smith right now

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Re: RO system
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2021, 06:11:08 am »
I have an RO system. Filters need to be replaced once or twice a year. I'm still on the original RO membrane. Get a TDS meter, they are in the $10 range. I see around 5-8 TDS so no reason for a test. If I saw numbers higher I would replace the membrane.

The water in my town isn't cheap. I think that cost of the system, maintenance, and waste water is less than at a store. The store has the same water supply. I also save my old back by not wrestling the jugs in and out of the car.

We use the RO water for coffee, the resulting coffee tastes better.
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Re: RO system
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2021, 06:33:08 am »
With your home RO system how long does it take to gather total brewhaus liquor?


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« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2021, 07:28:31 am »
Thank you! I'm messing around with Beer smith right now

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Careful with water chemistry additions. It can get in depth and eventually you can start looking for problems to fit your solutions.

After going down the rabbit hole I crawled back out and decided to use a more simple (simpler?) approach. Just because you can add a salt doesn’t mean you should.

Don’t let someone else tell you you should add something because that’s the correct way to brew X beer. Of course, there are principles and guidelines to follow but this can get to the Nth degree and suck the fun right out of what’s supposed to be an enjoyable past time.

Let your taste determine for you. For example: Just because Burtonization is how it’s done doesn’t mean it tastes better to you. This is like seasoning a soup or stew. You might like more/less X spice in your chili than someone else.

Palmer has his method(s), Strong has his, Brungard, and on and on. All upstanding pillars of the community but they aren’t you and don’t have your taste buds.


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Re: RO system
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2021, 08:15:11 am »
This thread made me check the availability of RO water near me and apparently I can get it right up the street 10 gallons for like 4 bucks. That is sweet. Think I'm gonna start messing with water now!

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+1 

I do the same even though I have an RO system for drinking water.  I can get 15 gals of RO for $4.50
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Re: RO system
« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2021, 08:59:45 am »
With your home RO system how long does it take to gather total brewhaus liquor?


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I always fill a 15 gallon tank that I have in the garage, so I haven't actually timed it.  The main RO tank in my basement is 20 gallons and it is connected to the garage by 3/8 inch tubing.  At the garage end I have a simple valve.  I think it can produce something like 9 gallons per day, but that is just a distant recollection.
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Re: RO system
« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2021, 10:04:15 am »
Thank you! I'm messing around with Beer smith right now

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Careful with water chemistry additions. It can get in depth and eventually you can start looking for problems to fit your solutions.

After going down the rabbit hole I crawled back out and decided to use a more simple (simpler?) approach. Just because you can add a salt doesn’t mean you should.

Don’t let someone else tell you you should add something because that’s the correct way to brew X beer. Of course, there are principles and guidelines to follow but this can get to the Nth degree and suck the fun right out of what’s supposed to be an enjoyable past time.

Let your taste determine for you. For example: Just because Burtonization is how it’s done doesn’t mean it tastes better to you. This is like seasoning a soup or stew. You might like more/less X spice in your chili than someone else.

Palmer has his method(s), Strong has his, Brungard, and on and on. All upstanding pillars of the community but they aren’t you and don’t have your taste buds.


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I couldn't agree more with all of this. I've played with water chemistry and decided I prefer beer brewed with relatively soft water. I have a target range that I shoot for as a base for all my beers, and I only tweak (if needed) on a rebrew.

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