[klickitat jim]

Yes!
My problem is that I feel "no politics" is the most political thing one can say. But, I'll bet the owner of the forum has a 503 tax exemption which limits political activities. Therefore it's best for all of us to avoid it altogether unless it's linked to brewing and nonpartisan. So, my apologies if I lead anyone down that path.

[denny]

Jim, I have no idea about the status of the AHA other than it's a non profit.  But that's not the point.  The reason for the "no politics, race, or religion" rule is to help maintain a friendly, civil atmosphere based on our shared love of brewing.

[klickitat jim]

That too my friend. Its an easily emotional topic. We probably would change much anyway other than the atmosphere of the forum. Agreed not worth it. Back to brewing

[a10t2]

The wait for an ok to do a beer label is what caught my attention. I'm not convinced that we really need DC bureaucrats to survive that decision.

Only if the beer is going to cross state lines. Blame the founding fathers for that one.

[hopfenundmalz]

The wait for an ok to do a beer label is what caught my attention. I'm not convinced that we really need DC bureaucrats to survive that decision.

Only if the beer is going to cross state lines. Blame the founding fathers for that one.

Have you got your brewery permits? Opening when?

[a10t2]

Have you got your brewery permits? Opening when?

Looking at an early spring opening. Right now we're waiting on our SBA loan approval - or rather we were.

[Pawtucket Patriot]

Have you got your brewery permits? Opening when?

Looking at an early spring opening. Right now we're waiting on our SBA loan approval - or rather we were.

Sean, I feel for ya man.  We're on a similar timeline as far as opening.  I was telling my wife the other day how lucky we are that we started the SBA application process when we did.  We were approved in mid-September and closed on our loan shortly afterward.  At least we were able to order our equipment with the proceeds.  But we still need to get our Brewer's Notice application in.  It's all ready to go, but there's no one to process.   

[Thirsty_Monk]

Have you got your brewery permits? Opening when?

Looking at an early spring opening. Right now we're waiting on our SBA loan approval - or rather we were.

Sean, I feel for ya man.  We're on a similar timeline as far as opening.  I was telling my wife the other day how lucky we are that we started the SBA application process when we did.  We were approved in mid-September and closed on our loan shortly afterward.  At least we were able to order our equipment with the proceeds.  But we still need to get our Brewer's Notice application in.  It's all ready to go, but there's no one to process.   

Just send the application to me. I will approve it

[narvin]

The wait for an ok to do a beer label is what caught my attention. I'm not convinced that we really need DC bureaucrats to survive that decision.

Only if the beer is going to cross state lines. Blame the founding fathers for that one.

So how does that work?  I remember reading on probrewer that someone wanted to get a kind of generic keg/tap label approved for their brewpub so they could do new styles more quickly, but it was denied.  Do you only need TTB approval if you're selling out of state?

[Pawtucket Patriot]

The wait for an ok to do a beer label is what caught my attention. I'm not convinced that we really need DC bureaucrats to survive that decision.

Only if the beer is going to cross state lines. Blame the founding fathers for that one.

So how does that work?  I remember reading on probrewer that someone wanted to get a kind of generic keg/tap label approved for their brewpub so they could do new styles more quickly, but it was denied.  Do you only need TTB approval if you're selling out of state?

Right, you only need to go through the federal labeling approval process (COLA) if you are selling beer out of state.  Unless beer is being sold in interstate commerce, the feds have no authority to regulate it.  Thanks to the 21st Amendment, the individual states retain exclusive control over alcohol regulation if the alcohol stays within their borders.

[anthony]

The wait for an ok to do a beer label is what caught my attention. I'm not convinced that we really need DC bureaucrats to survive that decision.

Only if the beer is going to cross state lines. Blame the founding fathers for that one.

So how does that work?  I remember reading on probrewer that someone wanted to get a kind of generic keg/tap label approved for their brewpub so they could do new styles more quickly, but it was denied.  Do you only need TTB approval if you're selling out of state?

Right, you only need to go through the federal labeling approval process (COLA) if you are selling beer out of state.  Unless beer is being sold in interstate commerce, the feds have no authority to regulate it.  Thanks to the 21st Amendment, the individual states retain exclusive control over alcohol regulation if the alcohol stays within their borders.

Though some states still require COLAs even within state borders.

[Pawtucket Patriot]

The wait for an ok to do a beer label is what caught my attention. I'm not convinced that we really need DC bureaucrats to survive that decision.

Only if the beer is going to cross state lines. Blame the founding fathers for that one.

So how does that work?  I remember reading on probrewer that someone wanted to get a kind of generic keg/tap label approved for their brewpub so they could do new styles more quickly, but it was denied.  Do you only need TTB approval if you're selling out of state?

Right, you only need to go through the federal labeling approval process (COLA) if you are selling beer out of state.  Unless beer is being sold in interstate commerce, the feds have no authority to regulate it.  Thanks to the 21st Amendment, the individual states retain exclusive control over alcohol regulation if the alcohol stays within their borders.

Though some states still require COLAs even within state borders.

True, and most states have their own unique labeling approval requirements.  E.g, Minnesota requires us to file brand registrations for each brand @ $40 a pop.

[bluesman]

Have you got your brewery permits? Opening when?

Looking at an early spring opening. Right now we're waiting on our SBA loan approval - or rather we were.

Sean, I feel for ya man.  We're on a similar timeline as far as opening.  I was telling my wife the other day how lucky we are that we started the SBA application process when we did.  We were approved in mid-September and closed on our loan shortly afterward.  At least we were able to order our equipment with the proceeds.  But we still need to get our Brewer's Notice application in.  It's all ready to go, but there's no one to process.   

Hoping this shutdown gets resolved soon. When did you file your app? How much was your bond?

[Pawtucket Patriot]

Ron, we were hoping to submit the app this week.  We're just going to post a collateral bond for $1,000.  It just seems so much easier than going through a bonding company.

[klickitat jim]

Educate me. What on the label is being approved?