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Offline meckeard

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New member with a few questions
« on: January 24, 2021, 07:18:30 pm »
Hi all!  I am a beer lover, new member and wannabe brewer.  I recently purchased the following in order to make my first batch of beer:

- Brewers Best Beer Brewing Equipment Kit
- A NEIPA kit (makes 5 gallons)
- Large silver spoon
- Bottles and caps
- Cleaner

I believe all I need is a brewing pot and thermometer.  Before I proceed I have a few questions:

- Do I need anything else considering the kit I purchased and the other things listed?
- Should I buy a 6-8 gallon pot to ensure I have extra room?
- Stove or burner?  I'm just starting so don't want to get crazy until I know I like it but still wanted to know if the stove will suffice for now.

Thanks and I look forward to learning more on the forums.

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Re: New member with a few questions
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2021, 07:24:30 pm »
I would definitely go with a bigger pot incase of boil overs.

Also you'll need a way to chill your wort after the boil.

If your doing 5 gallons you may find it hard to get 5 gallons to a boil on your stove top.

https://www.brewcabin.com/wort-chillers/

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=how+to+brew&ref=nb_sb_noss

http://www.brewersbestkits.com/equipment.html

Here are some links to a wort chiller and some information on chilling wort

Also a link to an absolutely must read book on brewing.

And finally I have Brewers best 8 gallon brew kettle.

You may want to look into getting a turkey fryer propane burner or banjo cooker.

These things are gonna get you started for sure.

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Re: New member with a few questions
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2021, 07:51:19 pm »
I would definitely go with a bigger pot incase of boil overs.

Also you'll need a way to chill your wort after the boil.

If your doing 5 gallons you may find it hard to get 5 gallons to a boil on your stove top.

https://www.brewcabin.com/wort-chillers/

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=how+to+brew&ref=nb_sb_noss

http://www.brewersbestkits.com/equipment.html

Here are some links to a wort chiller and some information on chilling wort

Also a link to an absolutely must read book on brewing.

And finally I have Brewers best 8 gallon brew kettle.

You may want to look into getting a turkey fryer propane burner or banjo cooker.

These things are gonna get you started for sure.

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Thanks, this is good info.  I'll order the book ASAP so I can get it read.

It puzzles me that I was told the brewers best kit was all I needed.  I guess I don't NEED the chiller but it seems close to necessary.

Since I haven't ordered the pot, I will look around at some of the pot/burner combos.  Some pots even have the thermometer and a few valves built in.

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Re: New member with a few questions
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2021, 08:20:53 pm »
Engage soapbox.

Don't assume you have to jump straight into 5-gallon batches. Do some googling about small batch brewing and no chill brewing. You can probably get started 1-2 gallon batches with mostly the stuff already in your kitchen.

Disengage soapbox.

You want your kettle to be at least 50%-100% larger than your batch size.

I've heard a lot of horror stories about glass carboys; you may want to switch to PET when you a chance.

You don't have to have a chiller -- Google no chill brewing.
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Re: New member with a few questions
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2021, 08:26:09 pm »
Looking over the stuff that comes with your kit, it doesn't mention bottles or caps. If you're not already set up for kegging, you'll need about 4 dozen 12 ounce bottles and crown caps.
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Re: New member with a few questions
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2021, 08:39:43 pm »
Maybe starting with a single gallon would be better. 

Do you think I would be able to use the 5 gallon containers in my kit?  Or does the containers have to close to the size of the brew?

I have some bottles and caps.

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Re: New member with a few questions
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2021, 01:39:19 am »
http://www.brewersbestkits.com/assets/1026_neipa_recipe.pdf

SS 16 qt (4 gallon) stock pot on your stove would work, according to directions.
I've used a 16qt stock pot many times, larger will be an issue on the stove.
Many available in retail stores with different grades of SS, thickness, and cost.
Your recipe procedure adds water to volume.

In my opinion, 22oz glass beer bottles is the way to go, you will need 2 cases.
I use the heavy cardboard cases they came in, for storage and carrying.
Anything over you can put in 12 oz bottles. Much less to bottle,
and who just opens one 12 oz bottle ?  I use oxygen absorbing bottle caps,
and dip bottle cap in star-san before crimping.

Bench capper screwed down to a piece of thick wood works like a charm.
Example: https://www.amazon.com/Home-Brew-Ohio-Strong-Capper/dp/B016APOQVW/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3RXE89OYLPXDQ&dchild=1&keywords=bottle+bench+capper&qid=1611564875&sprefix=bottle+ben%2Caps%2C183&sr=8-2

Lowes/Home Depot sells small precut pieces in the fancy wood section that will work,
which is what I did from advice.  Section of 2X8 will also work.
« Last Edit: January 25, 2021, 11:15:56 am by Fire Rooster »

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Re: New member with a few questions
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2021, 04:16:01 am »
No chill is awesome that's what I do and I'll never chill again. But I also didn't want to open pandoras box

+1 to all the no chill comments

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Re: New member with a few questions
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2021, 05:44:07 am »
Thanks guys!  Looks like I have some homework to do but in a good way. 

I'll read up on all your comments, read the brewing book and update this thread with my progress.

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Re: New member with a few questions
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2021, 05:48:31 am »
Do you think I would be able to use the 5 gallon containers in my kit?  Or does the containers have to close to the size of the brew?

Can you? Yes.  Should you?  Debatable.  The exact effects of headspace on fermentation are beyond my expertise.  Some brewers do open fermentation (effectively infinite headspace); others go to great pains to minimize even the slightest oxygen exposure.

If you want a small fermentation vessel on the cheap, buy a gallon of apple juice in a glass bottle -- minimal headspace and low oxygen permeability. (But hard to clean.) Or some hardware stores sell 2 gallon food safe plastic buckets. (Easier to clean but more oxygen permeable.) Drill a hole in the lid, add a grommet, stick in your airlock.

I'm pretty to new this hobby, too.  And when I was first starting, I jumped straight into a 15-gallon kettle and 7.5 gallon fermenter. Both of which have been idle since last July. My idea is that as a new breweer, what I need to do more than anything is just practice, practice, practice.  And doing smaller batches lets me do more batches, more often, with lower ingredient costs.
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Re: New member with a few questions
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2021, 05:48:38 am »
Thanks guys!  Looks like I have some homework to do but in a good way. 

I'll read up on all your comments, read the brewing book and update this thread with my progress.

In my opinion, follow the directions in your kit to a T.
I recommend you get a few under your belt, before wandering off the beaten path.
Pay attention to what you are doing, and why you are doing it.

Enjoy

« Last Edit: January 25, 2021, 06:11:24 am by Fire Rooster »

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Re: New member with a few questions
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2021, 02:56:21 pm »
Engage soapbox.

Don't assume you have to jump straight into 5-gallon batches. Do some googling about small batch brewing and no chill brewing. You can probably get started 1-2 gallon batches with mostly the stuff already in your kitchen.

Disengage soapbox.

You want your kettle to be at least 50%-100% larger than your batch size.

I've heard a lot of horror stories about glass carboys; you may want to switch to PET when you a chance.

You don't have to have a chiller -- Google no chill brewing.

absolutely about the 5 gallon size. i started with a 6.5 gallon carboy and that was just absurdly massive. ive been doing this for a long time and i hope once i get some more value out of my newly purchased 5 gallons, i will definitely switch down to about 2.5 or 3 gallon in the future.

imho 2.5 gallons is a real sweetspot size where you get a fair bit of beer, but your brewday and bottling day are significantly shortened and less stressful.

and yeah, no chiller. if you live in any northern state you can easily cool down your hot wort to pitching temp in 24 hours. 2.5 gallon size, even faster.

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Re: New member with a few questions
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2021, 03:57:45 pm »
https://youtu.be/HODvdjMcjlA

This got me into no chill

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