[nvshooter2276]

Simple question: Can No-rinse Brewery Wash be used to sanitize the equipment that comes in contact with my wort with equal capability as has Star-San? I have a good bit of brewery wash powder because I have quite a few cans of mr. beer pre-hopped syrup. You get one envelope with every can you buy. I see myself rolling my fermenter (on its long axis) in a few inches of Wash in a 22-gallon tote I have for just that purpose. I think several minutes of rolling in the Wash will provide sufficient sanitizing. Comments welcomed...

[M-O-O-N That spells beer!]

I don't recall 'no-rinse brewery wash'. Do you mean One-Step cleaner?

[CounterPressure]

Never heard of it. Stuff I've never heard of scares me.

[Kevin]

Like the others I am not clear on what brewery wash you are talking about but in general cleaners are for cleaning and sanitizers are for sanitizing... and you can not sanitize something that is not clean.

[hopfenundmalz]

Never heard of it. Stuff I've never heard of scares me.

One Step has been around for a long long time. Some useit, but I'm a clean and then sanitize guy.

https://www.northernbrewer.com/products/one-step

[CounterPressure]

One Step has been around for a long long time. Some useit, but I'm a clean and then sanitize guy.

https://www.northernbrewer.com/products/one-step

Well, I can't say I haven't heard of it anymore.
I also prefer to clean and then sanitize. I use my glass carboys as my guide for cleaning. I wash them inside and out as clean as possible and then rinse and allow to air dry. If they have so much as a visible water spot, I know there's something there. Since they never do, I'm confident that everything I clean is equally as clean, even if I can't see like I can on the glass.  I generally then apply sanitizer only when I'm getting ready to put beer or wort in there, so after that I don't really ever look for water spots again. I can't imagine a no rinse cleaner would leave glassware as spotless as rinsing with hot water. Even if it isn't a problem, I would be reluctant to do it. But that's just me.

[neuse]

One Step has been around for a long long time. Some useit, but I'm a clean and then sanitize guy.

https://www.northernbrewer.com/products/one-step

Well, I can't say I haven't heard of it anymore.
I also prefer to clean and then sanitize. I use my glass carboys as my guide for cleaning. I wash them inside and out as clean as possible and then rinse and allow to air dry. If they have so much as a visible water spot, I know there's something there. Since they never do, I'm confident that everything I clean is equally as clean, even if I can't see like I can on the glass.  I generally then apply sanitizer only when I'm getting ready to put beer or wort in there, so after that I don't really ever look for water spots again. I can't imagine a no rinse cleaner would leave glassware as spotless as rinsing with hot water. Even if it isn't a problem, I would be reluctant to do it. But that's just me.

I'm also skeptical of any no-rinse cleaner, or a cleaner/sanitizer. I feel that after being cleaned, some microbes can make their way onto the surface as the item sits waiting to be used. Sanitizing immediately before using gives me much more confidence. And no-rinse cleaner just doesn't make sense to me, but that's really a separate issue.

[nvshooter2276]

I don't recall 'no-rinse brewery wash.' Do you mean One-Step cleaner?

I've heard of One-Step. I'm asking about the small packets of no-rinse cleaner that come with cans of pre-hopped malt syrup from mr. beer. I'd look, but I've put about a dozen into a one-gallon milk jug and trashed the envelopes. Mixing instructions are to mix one tablespoon of the gritty powder with one gallon of 100° water.

I just looked at the mr. beer website: It's called "No-Rinse Cleanser." Does it just clean? Does it sanitize, too?

Looked on another website: One reviewer writes that it cleans and sanitizes. That answers my question. I have so much of it that I can use it somewhat liberally and keep my precious Star-San in the bottle. Yes; Star-San is "cheap." The expense in time and money is to drive a seventy-mile round trip to Reno to get it, as well as the cost of the actual purchase. Closed on Sundays and Mondays, too, so that also cramps my style...

[Kevin]

I don't recall 'no-rinse brewery wash.' Do you mean One-Step cleaner?

I've heard of One-Step. I'm asking about the small packets of no-rinse cleaner that come with cans of pre-hopped malt syrup from mr. beer. I'd look, but I've put about a dozen into a one-gallon milk jug and trashed the envelopes. Mixing instructions are to mix one tablespoon of the gritty powder with one gallon of 100° water.

I just looked at the mr. beer website: It's called "No-Rinse Cleanser." Does it just clean? Does it sanitize, too?

Looked on another website: One reviewer writes that it cleans and sanitizes. That answers my question. I have so much of it that I can use it somewhat liberally and keep my precious Star-San in the bottle. Yes; Star-San is "cheap." The expense in time and money is to drive a seventy-mile round trip to Reno to get it, as well as the cost of the actual purchase. Closed on Sundays and Mondays, too, so that also cramps my style...

Not necessarily. Don't believe the hype of marketing or reviewers. Not knowing what the ingredients are I would not assume that it sanitizes. It's not going to hurt to mix up a small amount of Starsan to sanitize your equipment after it has been cleaned. btw, nobody has to drive 70 miles or even 7 miles to buy anything these days. It's all available online.

[nvshooter2276]

... nobody has to drive 70 miles or even 7 miles to buy anything these days. It's all available online.

That might be entirely true, but added to the cost of the merchandise are the shipping costs. I abhor paying for shipping, even though it often comes close to the cost of the gasoline to go get it in my private four-wheeler. There are two breweries in my little town, but NO homebrew stores. I have not been into these two places, but it's doubtful they sell homebrew stuff. I would suspect that I can buy growlers of their product; I have two that need a good scrubbin' before I can put anything into them.

[Richard]

... nobody has to drive 70 miles or even 7 miles to buy anything these days. It's all available online.

That might be entirely true, but added to the cost of the merchandise are the shipping costs. I abhor paying for shipping, even though it often comes close to the cost of the gasoline to go get it in my private four-wheeler. There are two breweries in my little town, but NO homebrew stores. I have not been into these two places, but it's doubtful they sell homebrew stuff. I would suspect that I can buy growlers of their product; I have two that need a good scrubbin' before I can put anything into them.

I hate paying shipping costs, too. No reason to support those FedEx drivers. It isn't that hard to reach the $59 minimum order for MoreBeer, although the $99 for Northern Brewer is more of a challenge. I plan a few months ahead and purchase supplies and ingredients for 3-4 brews at a time. If you purchase a 16 oz bottle of StarSan concentrate and a 5 lb container of Alkaline Brewery Wash from MoreBeer you have hit the $59 already. Those will last you a long time, and they don't go bad (as far as I know). The only down side is that when I have that much of something on hand I tend not to be as frugal with its use as when I have a more limited supply.

[purduekenn]

I use 1-Step Cleaner to clean plastic fermenters and it works well.. I like it because it's a no rinse cleaner. I always use Star San or Iodophor to sanitize.